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this discussion is really a continuation of Discussion 17 - Glam Rock & Punk - as the roots of grunge and 90s alternative rock can all be traced back to the punk movement. I was always a little fuzzy on the distinction between Grunge and Alternative: Alternative is supposedly a subcategory of grunge. To my ears, it was a little bit more radio friendly, slightly more refined, while maintaining links to the grunge sound. In the beginning of the "alternative" era, bands like STP and Pearl Jam could be classified as both, however, near the end of the "alternative" era, you would be hard pressed to find any grunge-iness in the big hits by the new crop of "alternative" artists.
Link to Spotify playlist: [https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0talZFXqGI16BZU0PxN4e2?si=169f986052d14c99 Mus115 - 18. Grunge, Alternative, 90s]
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Grunge


One of the most influential bands of the late 1980s was the Pixies, who laid the foundations for what was to follow in the grunge style.  
This page is really an extension of Glam Rock & Punk - as the roots of grunge and 90s alternative rock can all be traced back to the punk movement. The distinction between Grunge and Alternative is a bit fuzzy: Alternative is supposedly a subcategory of grunge. To my ears, it was a little bit more radio friendly, slightly more refined, while maintaining links to the grunge sound. In the beginning of the "alternative" era, bands like STP and Pearl Jam could be classified as both, however, near the end of the "alternative" era, you would be hard pressed to find any grunge-iness in the big hits by the new crop of "alternative" artists.


Their biggest hit is not really indicative of the style:
'''Grunge'''


Pixies - Here Comes Your Man
The foundations of grunge were laid by '''The Pixies''' in the late 1980s:


Links to an external site.
* [https://open.spotify.com/track/4IvZLDtwBHmBmwgDIUbuwa?si=c0d217626ae045b5 Here Comes Your Man] - Their biggest hit is not entirely indicative of the style. This one starts with a Beatle-esq opening guitar chord.
* [https://open.spotify.com/track/7Bd6NXyt0rfaGJmiSfu1VD?si=1f796efc5fa4458b Trompe Le Monde] - this is much closer to the grunge style to follow.


Pixies - Trompe Le Monde
Trompe Le Monde heavily influenced Kurt Cobain and the rest of the band '''Nirvana'''. Very rarely are we able to pinpoint an origin of a style, but grunge can be said to have started in the Pacific Northwest (Seattle, essentially), with bands Soundgarden, Nirvana, and Pearl Jam.


Links to an external site. is closer to the grunge style.
While Soundgarden had some success in 1987 and 1988, their style wasn't really "grunge" so to speak. Their style was/is more like hard rock / art rock / metal with a little bit of punk mixed in. Certainly, there is a virtuosity in the instrumentalists and the singer. Grunge is less clean, less virtuosic, and more like "metal-i-fied punk" sound. For this, we turn to Nirvana. I don't think there is anyone who can dispute that '''Nirvana''' *is* the epitome of the grunge sound.
 
This heavily influenced Kurt Cobain and the rest of the band Nirvana. Very rarely are we able to pinpoint an origin of a style, but grunge can be said to have started in the Pacific Northwest (Seattle, essentially), with bands Soundgarden, Nirvana, and Pearl Jam.
 
While Soundgarden had some success in 1987 and 1988, their style wasn't really "grunge" so to speak. Their style was/is more like hard rock / art rock / metal with a little bit of punk mixed in. Certainly, there is a virtuosity in the instrumentalists and the singer. Grunge is less clean, less virtuosic, and more like "metal-i-fied punk" sound. For this, we turn to Nirvana. I don't think there is anyone who can dispute that Nirvana *is* the epitome of the grunge sound.


They had two big monster hits from their second album Nevermind:
They had two big monster hits from their second album Nevermind:


Nirvana - Come As You Are
* [https://open.spotify.com/track/4P5KoWXOxwuobLmHXLMobV?si=191da1a6dbf74d22 Come As You Are]
 
* [https://open.spotify.com/track/5ghIJDpPoe3CfHMGu71E6T?si=e05256af236a4b57 Smells Like Teen Spirit]
Links to an external site.
 
Nirvana - Smells Like Teen Spirit


Links to an external site.
It's hard to understate how popular they were in the early 90s. You couldn't escape their music on the radio, especially some songs from their MTV Unplugged performance.  
 
It's hard to understate how popular they were in the early 90s. I somehow kind of missed the Nirvana train, although you couldn't escape their music on the radio, especially some songs from their MTV Unplugged performance.  


On April 5, 1994, Kurt Cobain killed himself, and sent shockwaves through the rock world. It was almost as big as the deaths of Jimi Hendrix or Janis Joplin or Jim Morrison were in 1970s.
On April 5, 1994, Kurt Cobain killed himself, and sent shockwaves through the rock world. It was almost as big as the deaths of Jimi Hendrix or Janis Joplin or Jim Morrison were in 1970s.
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The MTV Unplugged performance was turned into an album, which went to #1 shortly after Kurt's death, and their cover of David Bowie's "The Man Who Sold the World" was really really big on the radio at the time, as well.
The MTV Unplugged performance was turned into an album, which went to #1 shortly after Kurt's death, and their cover of David Bowie's "The Man Who Sold the World" was really really big on the radio at the time, as well.


Drummer David Grohl went on to form the Foo Fighters and find great success there as the lead singer and guitarist.
* [https://open.spotify.com/track/15VRO9CQwMpbqUYA7e6Hwg?si=d9851f2256614004 The Man Who Sold the World (live)]


Foo Fighters - Everlong
Drummer David Grohl went on to form the '''Foo Fighters''' and find great success there as the lead singer and guitarist, in albeit in less gunge-y format. Foo Fighters were solidly alternative.


Links to an external site.
* [https://open.spotify.com/track/5UWwZ5lm5PKu6eKsHAGxOk?si=c6e2e512e75b47a4 Everlong]
* [https://open.spotify.com/track/4dVbhS6OiYvFikshyaQaCN?si=a701e982d8724857 My Hero]


Foo Fighters - My Hero


Links to an external site.


Pearl Jam
'''Pearl Jam'''


Another Seattle based grunge band, they were formed from the remnants of several other grunge bands and San Diego vocalist Eddie Vedder. Their first album Ten was a huge hit, and I remember the song Jeremy hit pretty hard at the time - the song was about a kid who committed suicide in a school classroom with a gun, and the video was pretty graphic for the time. It included the lyrics:  
Another Seattle based grunge band, they were formed from the remnants of several other grunge bands and San Diego vocalist Eddie Vedder. Their first album Ten was a huge hit, and the song Jeremy was huge - the song was about a kid who committed suicide in a school classroom with a gun, and the video was pretty graphic for the time. It included the lyrics:  


"Daddy didn't give attention
Oh, to the fact that mommy didn't care"
<poem>  Daddy didn't give attention

  Oh, to the fact that mommy didn't care </poem>


Which were not truthful, and caused real harm to the kid's parents and friends.
Which were not truthful, and caused real harm to the kid's parents and friends.


Pearl Jam  - Jeremy
* [https://open.spotify.com/track/62nQ8UZVqR2RMvkJHkcO2o?si=ef5ffd4983724aea Jeremy]
* [https://open.spotify.com/track/6QewNVIDKdSl8Y3ycuHIei?si=a3d36023b37e4c90 Evenflow]


Links to an external site.
They did have a softer, folkier side as well, from their follow up album, a song with one of the longest titles in rock/pop/folk:


Another big hit for Pearl Jam was Evenflow
* [https://open.spotify.com/track/5lHgBqh9VwAAzQma55gHRY?si=7355254619264a57 Elderly Woman Behind the Counter in a Small Town]


Links to an external site.


They did have a softer, folkier side as well, from their follow up album, a song with the longest title I've ever seen in rock/pop/folk:


Pearl Jam - Elderly Woman Behind the Counter in a Small Town
'''Alice in Chains'''


Links to an external site.
A lot of radio hits came from this band as well. They were almost a refined version of grunge, with hard hitting percusion, vocals, and guitars.


Alice in Chains
* [https://open.spotify.com/track/6gZVQvQZOFpzIy3HblJ20F?si=5b22a92d60c74f1e Man in the Box] - their biggest hit.
* [https://open.spotify.com/track/4PtZE0h5oyPhCtPjg3NeYQ?si=95a66e78ae6c458e No Excuses]


A lot of radio hits from this band as well, they were a refined version of grunge, with hard hitting percusion, vocals, and guitars.
On April 5, 2002, the lead singer Layne Staley overdosed on drugs and died in his apartment. His body was not discovered until April 19th, as he had been living as a recluse for the past few years.


Alice in Chains - Man in the Box


Links to an external site. - probably their biggest hit.


Alice in Chains - No Excuses
'''Stone Temple Pilots'''


Links to an external site. - this one was on the radio all the time in my youth. I remember hearing that drum pattern in the beginning, and knowing exactly what was coming up.
Many rock history texts seem to ignore Stone Temple Pilots. There are people who swear they can't tell the difference between Pearl Jam and STP. They were labelled "Pearl Jam Clones" and accused of ripping off Pearl Jam's style. Upon reflection, you can hear some vocal similarities, especially on STP's first really big album "Core", and their mega hit "Plush". There is a [[wikipedia:Tritone|tri-tone]] leap in the vocals in Plush and Evenflow that sounds almost identical:


On April 5, 2002, the lead singer Layne Staley overdosed on drugs and died in his apartment. His body was not discovered until April 19th, as he had been living as a recluse for the past few years.
* [https://mus115-wiki.sbccmusic.com/audio/STP-PearlJam.mp3 Audio sample here] - first is a section from STP's Plush, second is a sample from Pearl Jam's Evenflow. Evenflow came out about a year or so before Plush.


Stone Temple Pilots
But beyond that specific snippet, the songs are different. I suppose it's the same as those who can't tell the difference between Billy Joel and Elton John. Do you pay attention to the details, or just the broad strokes?
* [https://open.spotify.com/track/0CkspLl535ZxdwCRs8AdZ4?si=9474f49d407b4cf2 Plush] - which, as heard above in the quick snippet, has some similarities to a Pearl Jam sound.


Many rock history texts seem to ignore Stone Temple Pilots. They were part of my first music purchase for myself, so I do have a bit of a fondness for them. I have a friend who swears they can't tell the difference between Pearl Jam and STP. I never had any trouble telling the two apart, but part of the problem was that they were labelled "Pearl Jam Clones" and ripping off Pearl Jam's style. Upon reflection, you can hear some vocal similarities, especially on STP's first really big album "Core", but as familiar as I was with the songs, I never had to figure out who was singing what. I will admit that there is a tri-tone leap in the vocals in Plush and Evenflow that sounds pretty much the same vocally (listen here
Another big hit for them was an acoustic version of [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2-aXRhpZxY "Big Empty"] that really helped differentiate them from the rest of the grunge movement, and, as a preview of their second album "Purple", helped build hype and get a bunch of hits off of that album.


Links to an external site.), but the rest of band playing behind them is very different. I guess it's the same as those who can't tell the difference between Billy Joel and Elton John. Do you pay attention to the details, or just the broad strokes?
Of the hits from the second album, their biggest was


STP's first big hit was Plush
* [https://open.spotify.com/track/6qLEOZvf5gI7kWE63JE7p3?si=779a222f2de14ec3 Interstate Love Song]


Links to an external site., which, as heard above in the quick snippet, has some similarities to a Pearl Jam sound.
Note in the video link below that singer Scott Weiland is doing some of the glam rock stuff with his pink feather jacket near the end. This sounds more refined and studio polished than the more 'live' Pearl Jam style (video below): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjJL9DGU7Gg (the actual song starts 35 seconds in).


Another big hit for them was an acoustic version of "Big Empty
STP's third album was a real departure from their first two, and didn't do as well in the charts, with a somewhat different vocal style on the entire album.


Links to an external site." that really helped differentiate them from the rest of the grunge movement, and, as a preview of their second album "Purple", helped build hype and get a bunch of hits off of that album.
* [https://open.spotify.com/track/2gdtLnVGGg80Kj9GiqP0vH?si=20c3527f56574db0 Trippin' on a Hole in a Paper Heart]
* [https://open.spotify.com/track/6y1I8cGzw6KWy2zPA572Jq?si=47c2e437928844da Lady Picture Show] - STP says this was inspired by Bad Finger's [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnGoOKPGDCo&t=92s Apple of My Eye]


Of the hits from the second album, their biggest was Interstate Love Song
Scott Weiland was in and out of rehab, was fired from the band in 2013, and was discovered dead in the bathroom of his tour bus in 2015, with multiple drugs and alcohol found in his bloodstream. Many were surprised he made it that long, considering his history with drugs and the earlier deaths of Kurt Cobain and Lane Staley. 


Links to an external site.. Note in the video link below that singer Scott Weiland is doing some of the glam rock stuff with his pink feather jacket near the end. This sounds more refined and studio polished than the more 'live' Pearl Jam style (video below): <nowiki>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjJL9DGU7Gg</nowiki>


STP's third album was a real departure from their first two, and didn't do as well in the charts, with a somewhat different vocal style on the entire album, showing on their main single, Trippin' on a Hole in a Paper Heart
'''Blind Mellon'''


Links to an external site., a bossa-nova style And so I Know Links to an external site., and another hit Lady Picture Show Links to an external site., which STP says was inspired by Bad Finger's Apple of My Eye
Another big band in the 90s, with a more alternative style (rather than grunge) was Blind Mellon, who were just getting going before lead singer Shannon Hoon died of a drug overdose at age 28.


Links to an external site. (this is linked to the particular section of that song). Hopefully you can hear the similarities.  
* [https://open.spotify.com/track/6txWz9UapYHVxEd7dDIHXT?si=624e142fa848432c No Rain]
* [https://open.spotify.com/track/5Cr8DxrjyP2fS93XjGXlFl?si=5032c2871d56419e Tones of Home]


Scott Weiland was in and out of rehab, was fired from the band in 2013, and was discovered dead in the bathroom of his tour bus in 2015, with multiple drugs and alcohol found in his bloodstream. Many of us were surprised he made it that long, considering his history with drugs and the earlier deaths of Kurt Cobain and Lane Staley. In fact, the grunge movement might be also be just as well known for the deaths of the band lead singers (mostly to drug problems):
The grunge movement might also be just as well known for the deaths of the band lead singers (either to drugs or suicide):  


Kurt Cobain (1994) - Nirvana
Kurt Cobain (1994) - Nirvana
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Riot Grrrl
 
'''Riot Grrrl'''


This was an attempt to start a "Women In Rock" movement in the Pacific Northwest, and although they had some bands that eventually opened for Nirvana, the movement somewhat floundered, and many of the bands formed through the organization like Bikini Kill and Calamity Jane ended up breaking up after a short career. However, this wave did inspire a new wave of female singer-songwriters like Ani DiFranco, Jewel, Alanis Morrissette, PJ Harvey, Sheryl Crow, Norah Jones, and Sarah McLaughlin.
This was an attempt to start a "Women In Rock" movement in the Pacific Northwest, and although they had some bands that eventually opened for Nirvana, the movement somewhat floundered, and many of the bands formed through the organization like Bikini Kill and Calamity Jane ended up breaking up after a short career. However, this wave did inspire a new wave of female singer-songwriters like Ani DiFranco, Jewel, Alanis Morrissette, PJ Harvey, Sheryl Crow, Norah Jones, and Sarah McLaughlin.


Specifically, Alanis Morissette - her debut album Jagged Little Pill with the debut hit "You Oughta Know" was huuuuuge. Everywhere. You couldn't escape it. I think this album did a lot to shape rock music going forward.
Specifically, '''Alanis Morissette''' - her debut album Jagged Little Pill with the debut hit "You Oughta Know" was huuuuuge. Everywhere. You couldn't escape it. I think this album did a lot to shape rock music going forward.
 
Alanis Morissette - You Oughta Know
 
Links to an external site. - has some explicit lyrics, has some grunge sound to it, and has the awesome bass playing by Flea (from Red Hot Chili Peppers).
 
Basically, in my mind, this is the epitome of the "Alternative" style - lots of grunge influence, but with some instrumental expertise and a singer who can belt, with a tiny bit of punk in there, with hard hitting choruses.
 
Alanis Morissette - Right Through You


Links to an external site.
* [https://open.spotify.com/track/0Dw9z44gXhplDh5HCWZIxP?si=30edcb502e384a61 You Oughta Know] - also notable is that Flea (from Red Hot Chili Peppers) was playing bass on this tune.
* [https://open.spotify.com/track/3wlAFApMFjuXX3PqcTmRMS?si=64951afc1c1340d4 Right Through You]




Other Alternative Artists


Another big "alternative" band was Alice in Chains. Probably the biggest hit was Man in the Box, but they also had a some great "unplugged" performances, and another massive radio hit No Excuses.
'''Other Alternative Artists'''


No Doubt was another massive seller. Their third album "Tragic Kingdom" had six or seven hits, and all were massive. This band was more of a precursor to ska, but mixed the alternative and rock styles of the time.
No Doubt was another massive seller. Their third album "Tragic Kingdom" had six or seven hits, and all were massive. This band was more of a precursor to ska, but mixed the alternative and rock styles of the time.


Just a Girl
* [https://open.spotify.com/track/5lWRaa0fBxDE5yU91npPq7?si=b624008749f848d9 Just a Girl] - first bit hit.
 
* [https://open.spotify.com/track/4ZD6SiaJi75smnel0d7jl3?si=e96b741d773a4b3f Spiderwebs] - another solid big hit, you'll hear more of the ska sounds in this one.
Links to an external site. - first bit hit.
* [https://open.spotify.com/track/6urCAbunOQI4bLhmGpX7iS?si=1b3363874221419e Don't Speak] - massive ballad-style hit, written by the lead singer Gwen Stefani about her breakup with the bass player Tony Kanal.
 
Gwen Stefani went on to have a big solo career, before reuniting with No Doubt.
Spiderwebs
 
Links to an external site. - another solid big hit, you'll hear more of the ska sounds in this one.


Don't Speak
* [https://open.spotify.com/track/0LzrhCZFXW94Y8nwtTuRlw?si=660423c11a2145b9 Hollaback Girl] - there's a Queen quote in here. This was Gwen's first number one hit in the US.<br />


Links to an external site. - massive ballad-style hit, written by the lead singer Gwen Stefani about her breakup with the bass player Tony Kanal.
'''Pop Punk'''


Note - a few of the band members used to work at Disneyland in Anaheim, hence the play on "Magic Kingdom" in the album title. Sidenote - I was at Disneyland with friends on a band trip right around when this album came out, and recognized the guitar player Tom Dumont in an "employee" area, just hanging out with old friends, and managed to get a picture with him. I don't remember the camera, probably some small disposable thing. This was before cell phones, so I don't know that I'll ever find that picture, but it's just a fun memory of a random encounter in my youth.
In the 1990's a new offshoot of 80s punk style combined with alternative to become what I call Pop Punk.
 
Smashing Pumpkins, Sonic Youth, Dinosaur Jr, Soul Asylum, Pavement, Hole, Garbage, and Jane's Addiction were all to varying degrees other popular alternative groups. More on that in the questions
 
 
Pop Punk


The main characteristics of punk - high energy, punk attitude, distorted guitar, simple chords, lots of repetition, was taken a little further with the group Green Day. They added melodic hook lines, tuneful choruses, and a bit more of a refinement of the general punk aesthetic. In general, they were the "mainstream" version of punk.
The main characteristics of punk - high energy, punk attitude, distorted guitar, simple chords, lots of repetition, was taken a little further with the group Green Day. They added melodic hook lines, tuneful choruses, and a bit more of a refinement of the general punk aesthetic. In general, they were the "mainstream" version of punk.
* [https://open.spotify.com/track/6L89mwZXSOwYl76YXfX13s?si=f18522ebf05f4fff Basket Case] - Their first big hit
* [https://open.spotify.com/track/6nTiIhLmQ3FWhvrGafw2zj?si=19a50099caff4fed American Idiot]


Their first big hit, Basket Case
They continued in this vein for a long while, but they also experimented with a softer side, and had another resurgent hit:
 
Links to an external site., was another big mainstream hit.
 
Green Day - American Idiot
 
Links to an external site.
 
They continued in this vein for a long while, but they also experimented with a softer side, and had another resurgent hit with Wake Me Up When September Ends
 
Links to an external site.
 
Indie Rock
 
In the 90s, Indie rock became a bigger thing. "Indie" referred to music that, in some manner, placed itself opposite of the mainstream culture. Some indie rock was about appearance - looking like you dressed in a thrift store. Other artists were about eschewing studio perfect vocals or other recording studio magic. A popular "counter" to the mainstream produced pop/rock was to proclaim "no autotune used" on an indie album. Certainly, the vocals on all the indie stuff should be a little bit more "live" sounding.
 
Weezer is band that had some hits, then took some time off, and have had a resurgence a few years ago. They tend a bit more to the geek friendly indie style, with lots of cultural references and homages and obscure humor. Some of their songs on their debut album "The Blue Album" were recorded in one take on a soundstage.
 
Weezer - Buddy Holly
 
Links to an external site.
 
I remember this video like it was yesterday - all the references worked for the re-run shows I used to watch on Nick-at-Nite (Nickelodeon was a kids network in the day time, and switched to 60s sitcoms in evening hours when the kids were presumably in bed.
 
<nowiki>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kemivUKb4f4</nowiki>
 
Links to an external site.
 
Weezer - Say It Ain't So
 
Links to an external site.
 
Beck
 
These are two of Beck's biggest hits, and to me, not his best music. Because of these two, I kind of wrote him off as an artist I didn't want to listen to. I actually turned into a bit more of a Beck aficionado through a friend at music school who had all of his albums and exposed me to more of his music beyond the simple hits. There's a lesson in there somewhere, "don't judge a book by it's cover", etc...
 
Hits:
 
Beck - Where It's At
 
Links to an external site.
 
Beck - Loser
 
Links to an external site.
 
Arguably better than the hits:
 
Beck - Sunday Sun
 
Links to an external site.


If you listen to his album "Morning Phase" - it is very different from the hits, with some songs sounding more like Bon Iver style songs.
* [https://open.spotify.com/track/3ZffCQKLFLUvYM59XKLbVm?si=dc2fcf11a7ef4f70 Wake Me Up When September Ends]

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Link to Spotify playlist: Mus115 - 18. Grunge, Alternative, 90s



This page is really an extension of Glam Rock & Punk - as the roots of grunge and 90s alternative rock can all be traced back to the punk movement. The distinction between Grunge and Alternative is a bit fuzzy: Alternative is supposedly a subcategory of grunge. To my ears, it was a little bit more radio friendly, slightly more refined, while maintaining links to the grunge sound. In the beginning of the "alternative" era, bands like STP and Pearl Jam could be classified as both, however, near the end of the "alternative" era, you would be hard pressed to find any grunge-iness in the big hits by the new crop of "alternative" artists.

Grunge

The foundations of grunge were laid by The Pixies in the late 1980s:

  • Here Comes Your Man - Their biggest hit is not entirely indicative of the style. This one starts with a Beatle-esq opening guitar chord.
  • Trompe Le Monde - this is much closer to the grunge style to follow.

Trompe Le Monde heavily influenced Kurt Cobain and the rest of the band Nirvana. Very rarely are we able to pinpoint an origin of a style, but grunge can be said to have started in the Pacific Northwest (Seattle, essentially), with bands Soundgarden, Nirvana, and Pearl Jam.

While Soundgarden had some success in 1987 and 1988, their style wasn't really "grunge" so to speak. Their style was/is more like hard rock / art rock / metal with a little bit of punk mixed in. Certainly, there is a virtuosity in the instrumentalists and the singer. Grunge is less clean, less virtuosic, and more like "metal-i-fied punk" sound. For this, we turn to Nirvana. I don't think there is anyone who can dispute that Nirvana *is* the epitome of the grunge sound.

They had two big monster hits from their second album Nevermind:

It's hard to understate how popular they were in the early 90s. You couldn't escape their music on the radio, especially some songs from their MTV Unplugged performance.

On April 5, 1994, Kurt Cobain killed himself, and sent shockwaves through the rock world. It was almost as big as the deaths of Jimi Hendrix or Janis Joplin or Jim Morrison were in 1970s.

The MTV Unplugged performance was turned into an album, which went to #1 shortly after Kurt's death, and their cover of David Bowie's "The Man Who Sold the World" was really really big on the radio at the time, as well.

Drummer David Grohl went on to form the Foo Fighters and find great success there as the lead singer and guitarist, in albeit in less gunge-y format. Foo Fighters were solidly alternative.


Pearl Jam

Another Seattle based grunge band, they were formed from the remnants of several other grunge bands and San Diego vocalist Eddie Vedder. Their first album Ten was a huge hit, and the song Jeremy was huge - the song was about a kid who committed suicide in a school classroom with a gun, and the video was pretty graphic for the time. It included the lyrics:

   Daddy didn't give attention

   Oh, to the fact that mommy didn't care

Which were not truthful, and caused real harm to the kid's parents and friends.

They did have a softer, folkier side as well, from their follow up album, a song with one of the longest titles in rock/pop/folk:


Alice in Chains

A lot of radio hits came from this band as well. They were almost a refined version of grunge, with hard hitting percusion, vocals, and guitars.

On April 5, 2002, the lead singer Layne Staley overdosed on drugs and died in his apartment. His body was not discovered until April 19th, as he had been living as a recluse for the past few years.


Stone Temple Pilots

Many rock history texts seem to ignore Stone Temple Pilots. There are people who swear they can't tell the difference between Pearl Jam and STP. They were labelled "Pearl Jam Clones" and accused of ripping off Pearl Jam's style. Upon reflection, you can hear some vocal similarities, especially on STP's first really big album "Core", and their mega hit "Plush". There is a tri-tone leap in the vocals in Plush and Evenflow that sounds almost identical:

  • Audio sample here - first is a section from STP's Plush, second is a sample from Pearl Jam's Evenflow. Evenflow came out about a year or so before Plush.

But beyond that specific snippet, the songs are different. I suppose it's the same as those who can't tell the difference between Billy Joel and Elton John. Do you pay attention to the details, or just the broad strokes?

  • Plush - which, as heard above in the quick snippet, has some similarities to a Pearl Jam sound.

Another big hit for them was an acoustic version of "Big Empty" that really helped differentiate them from the rest of the grunge movement, and, as a preview of their second album "Purple", helped build hype and get a bunch of hits off of that album.

Of the hits from the second album, their biggest was

Note in the video link below that singer Scott Weiland is doing some of the glam rock stuff with his pink feather jacket near the end. This sounds more refined and studio polished than the more 'live' Pearl Jam style (video below): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjJL9DGU7Gg (the actual song starts 35 seconds in).

STP's third album was a real departure from their first two, and didn't do as well in the charts, with a somewhat different vocal style on the entire album.

Scott Weiland was in and out of rehab, was fired from the band in 2013, and was discovered dead in the bathroom of his tour bus in 2015, with multiple drugs and alcohol found in his bloodstream. Many were surprised he made it that long, considering his history with drugs and the earlier deaths of Kurt Cobain and Lane Staley.


Blind Mellon

Another big band in the 90s, with a more alternative style (rather than grunge) was Blind Mellon, who were just getting going before lead singer Shannon Hoon died of a drug overdose at age 28.

The grunge movement might also be just as well known for the deaths of the band lead singers (either to drugs or suicide):

Kurt Cobain (1994) - Nirvana

Shannon Hoon (1995) - Blind Melon

Lane Staley (2002) - Alice in Chains

Scott Weiland (2015) - STP

Chris Cornell (2017) - Soundgarden


Riot Grrrl

This was an attempt to start a "Women In Rock" movement in the Pacific Northwest, and although they had some bands that eventually opened for Nirvana, the movement somewhat floundered, and many of the bands formed through the organization like Bikini Kill and Calamity Jane ended up breaking up after a short career. However, this wave did inspire a new wave of female singer-songwriters like Ani DiFranco, Jewel, Alanis Morrissette, PJ Harvey, Sheryl Crow, Norah Jones, and Sarah McLaughlin.

Specifically, Alanis Morissette - her debut album Jagged Little Pill with the debut hit "You Oughta Know" was huuuuuge. Everywhere. You couldn't escape it. I think this album did a lot to shape rock music going forward.


Other Alternative Artists

No Doubt was another massive seller. Their third album "Tragic Kingdom" had six or seven hits, and all were massive. This band was more of a precursor to ska, but mixed the alternative and rock styles of the time.

  • Just a Girl - first bit hit.
  • Spiderwebs - another solid big hit, you'll hear more of the ska sounds in this one.
  • Don't Speak - massive ballad-style hit, written by the lead singer Gwen Stefani about her breakup with the bass player Tony Kanal.

Gwen Stefani went on to have a big solo career, before reuniting with No Doubt.

  • Hollaback Girl - there's a Queen quote in here. This was Gwen's first number one hit in the US.

Pop Punk

In the 1990's a new offshoot of 80s punk style combined with alternative to become what I call Pop Punk.

The main characteristics of punk - high energy, punk attitude, distorted guitar, simple chords, lots of repetition, was taken a little further with the group Green Day. They added melodic hook lines, tuneful choruses, and a bit more of a refinement of the general punk aesthetic. In general, they were the "mainstream" version of punk.

They continued in this vein for a long while, but they also experimented with a softer side, and had another resurgent hit: